Monday, October 29, 2012

Charlotte Observer Sweet 16 poll welcomes Charlotte Christian and York

Charlotte Christian coach Jason Estep intentionally front-loaded his team’s football schedule this season.

The Knights had a young group and Estep wanted to give them some experience against strong competition, even if it meant a slow start. Christian started the season 2-3, but now Estep’s strategy looks like it may be beginning to pay off.

Charlotte Christian beat reigning state champion Providence Day at home Friday to win the Charlotte Independent Schools’ conference championship. The Knights also handed private state power Charlotte Country Day its only loss of the season.

Both of those wins were on the road.

For its work, the Knights won the conference and also won the No. 1 seed for the N.C. Independent Schools Division I state championship tournament, which begins Friday. Christian, which will host Charlotte Latin, also moved into the Sweet 16 at No. 16 this week.

Also moving into the poll was York, which rejoined after a few weeks out. York upset previous No. 2 Rock Hill South Pointe 31-17 Friday.


Rk. School (No. 1 votes) Cl    Rec    Pts    Prv
1. Butler (3)    4A    10-0    48    1
2. Mallard Creek    4A    9-1    45    3
T3. Charlotte Catholic    3A    9-1    39    5
T3. South Point    3A    10-0    39    T6
5. Rock Hill Northwestern    4A    8-2    35    T6
6. Rock Hill South Pointe    4A    9-1    33    2
7. Statesville    3A    10-1    32    8
8. Porter Ridge    4A    9-1    27    T9
9. Crest    3A    9-2    24    4
10. Independence    4A    9-2    21    T9
11. Hickory Ridge    3A    10-1    17    12
12. South Caldwell    4A    11-0    15    13
13. East Lincoln    2A    10-0    12    T14
14. Hough    4A    9-2    8    11
15. York, SC    4A    8-2    7    NR
16. Charlotte Christian    IND    7-3    2    NR

Dropped Out: A.L. Brown (3A, 8-3), Charlotte Country Day (IND, 9-1). Also receiving votes: Albemarle (1A, 10-1), Charlotte Country Day. For rules on the poll and eligible teams, visit charlotteobserver.com/preps; a three-man panel of Observer sportswriters voted.

28 comments:

Anonymous said...

South Point tied with Catholic.....somebody check his drink

Anonymous said...

What is being done about butler head coach chest bumping a player from indy during sideline altercation? Even worse butler dc hitting a car while leaving memorial and failing to stop???? Come on observer and cms get to the bottom of this!!!

Anonymous said...

Anon 6:55

It's Butler what do you mean about something being done. Don't you know that Butler students and staff can do NO WRONG. Mark my word Lemay will play Friday.

Anonymous said...

The Observer can't stand a "non" Charlotte school being that high

Anonymous said...

Well, I guess a convincing win over Crest, an undefeated regular season, and pretty much complete dominance over every team they played this season isn't enough to get South Point above a 1-loss Catholic. CO, you guys have a credibility problem west of the Catawba. Ridiculous ranking. I don't care if SP is the 8th ranked team in the poll, as long as they're the #1 ranked 3A team. If it just "happened" after you guys voted on the teams that SP and Catholic were tied, then something is seriously wrong with your process. It'd be nice to hear who among the three of you guys thinks Catholic is a better team than SP. You had a leg to stand on last year when Catholic was undefeated as well. This year? Not so much. Homerism me thinks...

Anonymous said...

It's kind of fascinating that Christian gets in this week instead of when they beat Country Day three weeks ago. Is that because Providence Day, in your eyes, is the premier private school team in Charlotte? Country Day didn't lose to anybody since Christian beat them. They beat Providence Day and Latin, and fell out of the poll. I'm not saying Christian shouldn't be ahead of Country Day, they beat them and everything, but the timing is odd. It's either that or there is a quota for private schools. And please, I don't need a lecture on how polls work.

Observer Sports said...

As i've said before, the Sweet 16 is a vote. I make my vote and then total up the others. First place is 16 points, last is one. No one sits around and says "let's keep South Point below Catholic." Or "let's bump Country Day out."

The votes are done independent of each other. I disagree with some of the others' voting, and I'm sure if they all saw all the votes as I do, they'd disagree too. Just the nature of a poll.

-- LW

Anonymous said...

Langston care to weigh on butler allegations, you were at the game

Anonymous said...

I think maybe you need two new partners next year who are at least consistent with how they vote.

Anonymous said...

@ 655
Yeah that didn't happen
Why don't you watch the game again on time Warner on demand?

Oh wait you don't have it... Your poor and need a job and you most likely dropped out..... Get a life stop complaining your team lost get over it

Anonymous said...

Vance is 8-3 has played Butler, MC, Indep and Hough and u put a private school that is 7-3 in the sweet 16. Langston u went to WC so u know good and well who would beat who CC is the only private school team that deserves to be in the sweet 16. What team in the state has played Butler 10-0, MC 9-1, Hough 9-2 and Indep 9-2 be for real and give the kids from Vance some credit.

Anonymous said...

So Langston, what you're saying is that one person voted SP to be 3rd, one 4th, and one 5th for a total of 39 points. Then one person voted for Catholic to be 3rd, one 4th, and one 5th, for a total of 39 points? Again, irrespective of how they compare to those 4A power house teams, who the heck on staff thinks Catholic at 9-1 has proven more on the field than SP at 10-0? That's more of a rhetorical question rather than me looking for an answer. Its just not predictable--that's what I'm vocalizing. If SP was 9-1 and Catholic 10-0, I'd say it was logical to have Catholic ranked higher. Given the disparity in records, and given Catholic's location in Charlotte, it appears biased.

Regardless, I will say this. I appreciate you guys doing this, despite my season-long diatribes. Obviously, it gives us all something to peruse each week--just wish the poll in general behaved more predictably.

Anonymous said...

I was standing on Butler sideline and it most definitely happened, shameful that such a talented team is out of control on the field and off

Anonymous said...

Only a Butler fan could equate a good education with having TWC lol, Can you DVR Jerry Springer on TWC classy butler Fan?

Corey Inscoe said...

As one of the other voters, I'll back up what Langston said. We don't talk before or during votes.

As for consistency, I look at what I voted last week and usually only move teams that lose, keeping teams that win in the same order as the previous week.

The only exception would be when a team beats someone drastically higher in the poll.

Sergio Tovar said...

And for transparency, I'm the third voter.

Anonymous said...

Butler suspensions coming???

Anonymous said...

I know this is and has been discussed before, but every time I see their name in the public schools ranking, I think what the heck and wonder! Charlotte Catholic IS a private school. I am not saying they should not be ranked very high in the poles, but in a public school conference?!?

Anonymous said...

It's sad to see the intelligent collective of individuals that is the Southpoint fan base whining like day care brats for another bag of gummi bears. I'm truly shocked.

Clearly the few hours spent in Boiling Springs last week neutering Crest was enough to benumb the old frontal lobes long enough to allow this sad display of sour grapes over their position placement in the Sweet one six.

I have met my share of Red Raider fans and they are a sharp bunch but we need some honing here. Try the shop class over at Catholic. They'll get you right.

This is not Footsoldier.

Anonymous said...

This should be titled top 16 whinners.....Southpoint,Catholic....Indy fans are the worst..especially the guy who keeps referring to Jerry Springer. His kid probably got pancaked bad on Friday night.

Anonymous said...

Stay classy butler fans, the tarnish coming to your program is brought on by adults who can't properly guide their children........ sad

Anonymous said...

Just because a school is private doesn't mean it has to be worse than a public school team by default. See Catholic winning state ttiles. See Country Day beating Northwestern and Crest in the past several years.

Anonymous said...

When did CD beat Northwestern and Crest give me the years and i said CC does deserve to be in the sweet 16.

Anonymous said...

In 2005 Country Day beat Crest 27-9
In 2007 Country Day beat Northwestern 51-48 and Crest 17-0. In 2008 Country Day beat Crest 15-14. Not surprisingly, neither team has scheduled them since.

Anonymous said...

@ Anonymous Oct 30, 11:36 AM: If Catholic was 10-0 and ranked lower than SP at 9-1, the Catholic fans would have conniptions. I guess we'll see what happens in the playoffs.

Anonymous said...

South Point had better win the State Championship after all the belly-aching over the polls this year. I am surprised they would want to give the competition so much bulletin board fodder. Guess they can't lose!?!

Anonymous said...

I agree completely with all the Butler comments! They are all very unsportsman like and have no respect for adults. The night they played Independence the whinny QB got into the refees faces several times. Was he thrown out no? They are very disrespectful team and very bush league. Also I dont know what ever happened with the incident on the bus but I know for a fact the bus did hit a innocent citizens car and left the scene, I dont know about you but that is called a hit and run, but maybe they dont understand that due to the education and respect they show.

Bryan said...

It's amazing how worked up people get over the fact that a team is one spot lower or higher than they should be... In a regional poll.... conducted by a local paper.